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Where do the most intelligent inventors come up with their ideas?

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Where do the most intelligent inventors come up with their ideas?

Is it at universities? if so which universities?.

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Kimberly Dougherty
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Hi Aiden, welcome to Edison Nation and the Edison Nation Forums.

A lot of universities do contribute greatly to the world of inovation.

But don't confuse the knowledge gained at university with intelligence. There is a big difference between knowledge and intelligence. Knowledge is simply " what" you know, where as, intellegence is how you "apply" what it is that you know.

I am a firm believer that the "Intellegence Quotient" is a misnomer. It doen't measure intellegence, it is simply a comparison of knowledge between you and everyone in your age bracket that took the same test.

So someone who never had the opportunity for higher education has the same opportunity to succeed in inovation as anyone from a university.

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Hello Aiden and William,

I see your point and agree with your statement, William. I am a CNA & CMA. Neither require a college degree to possess. The CNA is typically an eight week course, and the CMA is typically a 60 hour college credit diploma. 

The invention that I have submitted is a medical device, and the idea came to me via my experiences in healthcare.

I believe that inventions are created through our experiences both individually and socially. More so, when we experience a problem, our ideas/inventions are thoughts of how to (better) solve them.

Universities typically work on an identified or specific (social) problem with faculty and students together. All adding to a collection of data in regard to a resolution. Also,"tech" companies strive for more advancements with technology in a like manner as the universities do. Whereas, individuals usually encounter a problem through personal experiences and solve them on their own or with a companion.

Inventions from any of the categories above can make significant contributions to our world.

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Kimberly - you are a Certified Nursing Aide/Assistant? HUGE respect - difficult, high-pressure, critical job! You are truly on the front lines of healthcare.

Did you submit your medical device to one of the Apothecary Products searches?

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Hello Robert,

Yes I am a certified nursing assistant, and also a certified medical assistant, CMA, AAMA.

I submitted my idea/invention into the ILP in December 2017.

Robert Pontius
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& lol, direct patient care.

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Fantastic Kimberly - welcome to the Edison Nation community of inventors!

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I see the LPS G8 label under your profile pic. What is LPS? Is that the Insider Licensing Program?

Robert Pontius
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Thanks! There's a lot of good information on the EN website. & nice people!

Robert Pontius
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Kimberly - "LPS" stands for "Licensed Product Search" - it's basically a kind of EN innovation search that is "sponsored" by a particular company. Differs from the Insider License Program in that it costs less to submit ($20 for an insider), does not require a PPA or patent, and has 8 review stages (vs. 4 for the ILP) - culminating in G8 (Green check at stage 8 - a licensing deal)

In my case, the LPS in which I got my G8/licensing deal was sponsored by a company called "Apothecary Products" (which acquired original search sponsor Health Enterprises). Apothecary is a MAJOR manufacturer and distributor of healthcare products to pharmacies and drug stores nationwide. https://www.apothecaryproducts.com/ Five LPS searches for Apothecary just closed last night but EN has a great ongoing relationship with Apothecary so if you have any more healthcare ideas (especially if they are not patented) you might want to consider submitting to the "All Category" search.

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Oops - mea culpa - I just noticed that an "LPS" is actually a "Live Product Search" not "Licensed Product Search" as I posted earlier. But the basic idea is still correct - it's an innovation search that is "sponsored" by a specific company.

I guess I've gotten so used to using "LPS" as a word that I forgot what words it actually stands for!

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Congratulations on your succes, and thanks for sharing. I bet the best part is that you no longer have to wait for the green check marks! 

If you don't mind that I ask, how long was the process for you? From submission to G8. 

Robert Pontius
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Kimberly - if I recall correctly it took almost 6 months from submission to license deal/G8. That may seem like a long time but it's worth noting that the original sponsor went through a major acquisition during that time period. The sponsor company also did a lot of due diligence, costing, market analysis, etc. during that time.

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I don't want to discourage anyone but, sometimes it can take over a year just to get an R8. You throw yourself a little pityparty and you move on. That's lfe, plain and simple. There is no standardized time frame or results. It takes what it takes and you get what you get.

Sometimes, somedays are just better than others.

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William, thank you for your advice. I have read many articles on the subject from Forbes, EN, Entrepreneur, IP WatchDogs, etc. My favorite to follow is Steven Key. If a licensing deal is made, I have read that the time frame could be anywhere from two weeks to many years. Mostly due to the reasons posted in the reply to my question: diligence research such as, cost, marketing, etc.

However, in light of the conversation above, just to say - I was wondering how long the process was for him - personally. He is a LPS G8 and I think it's neat to actually get to meet & talk with someone with that experience & success. Very cool!

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Robert - It is interesting that you mentioned that the sponsor went through an acquisition at the same time that you became involved with them. It seems that things are constantly changing in the market place and/or 'business world.'

In Chicago, Comiskey Park, home of the White Sox, is now U.S. Cellular Field, The Sear's Tower is now Willis Tower, etc. 

I am impressed to hear that the deal was completed in six months; in light of how busy the sponsor must have been at that time. Awesome outcome : ). Perhaps, EN's relationship with the sponsor & diligence to stay in constant contact with sponsors on our behalf [as they have pointed out to be so] might have helped to get the deal through in a rather timely manner.

You know, not being pushy, but sending friendly reminders/nudges, lol! 

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Kimberly - as they say, "experiences vary" - and that's true with EN as much as anywhere. It all depends on particular sponsor, search, specific invention, etc. ALL perspectives and experiences (such as William's) can be instructive for tempering our expectations.

I really had to resist bugging EN during the process of getting to a license deal but what helped was that THEY reached out to me on a regular basis. In turn I believe the sponsor company reached out and communicated regularly with EN (which might not be true of all sponsors). I suspect that from the start EN and the company implemented a structured, scheduled communication process so that the back and forth continued "automatically" without anyone feeling like they were pushing or feeling pushed. And I think that's probably the Standard Operating Procedure they at least try to implement with ALL sponsors and all searches. That's the advantage of EN's experience - they have a mature and disciplined process that I think succeeds in being "winsome" instead of grating or pushy. I suspect that if I were trying to go it alone and directly communicating with a company that I would be perceived as pushy and maybe even obnoxious in my impatient attempts to keep momentum going and satisfy my curiosity.

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Robert, just to say - I am happy to have been on the message board at the same time as you to catch a conversation. As well as with William :)

This isn't PC to say, but my nephew just passed away, had his services a few days ago. He, my sister (his mom), his father, my niece (his sister) have all pasted away within a two-year span. Also, my younger sister & her husband had passed before them - intoxicated driver hit my younger sister's car. My remaining nieces & nephews are here without their parents & some of their siblings.

My mind is so stressed & I'm grieving. I did noticed that you mentioned that your idea is also a healthcare product :)  but, my mind is so overloaded! :<

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Kimberly - I am so sorry to hear of those terrible losses. My prayers are with you and your nieces and nephews!

Kristina Poindexter
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Kimberly - for a little mental break you might want to head over to "Room 5".

Kimberly Dougherty
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Hi Kimberly, 

I echo Robert's thoughts and prayers - so sorry to hear about your loss. 

And I also second Robert's recommendation - as an Insider, you have exclusive access to Room 5...there "may" be some information you "may" wish to check out in this week's post that will shed some additional light on the licensing process. ;)

Kimberly Dougherty
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Kimberly,

My heart breaks for you and your family. All I can say is...

     Take it one day at a time, one moment at a time, and quite simply one breath and one heart beat at a time.


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Thank you Michael for saying the words to Kimberly I could not find...Kimberly... I understand the value of distractions in times of grief but I think this conversation has been a bit insensitive  that's why I said nothing before  I wish you lots of healing  and peace

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Michael and Crystal-Diane – I’m a little disconcerted that you have jumped into this conversation and made snap judgments about people and their feelings and motivations. If you read the whole discussion you’ll see that drawing attention to Room 5 (which happened to open up right at that moment) was a natural segue from the questions that brought Kimberly here in the first place.

On the other hand, Kimberly, if *you* feel that any of my comments were at all insensitive I sincerely apologize.

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I myself have been guilty of hijacking threads... I only found it a bit odd how quickly  people shifted the topic to  joining The Insider group  as if somehow that's going to alleviate such a loss  of course this is only my opinion Kimberly I wish you the best  I hope you find peace and the information you're looking for. 

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To everyone, I thank you for the kind thoughts. I am totally open to anyone's thoughts and am really grateful to hear about Robert's journey. 

Mentioning my personal situation was not right. I was trying to let anyone know that if I did not respond well - that was why. I can read responses & can post an initial thought of mine to something I have read. But I have a hard time elaborating back & forth. It is embarrassing - I revealed it in trying to let people know that  I am listening to them, but may not get my response out correctly or at all..

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Kimberly - I can tell you from years in this forum that it is absolutely, perfectly fine to mention personal situations - we all do it from time to time about ourselves or even (with permission) about fellow members when they can't post about it themselves (such as when they are having health problems).

I for one completely understood why you mentioned those losses - it fit in perfectly with the conversation we were having and helped clarify that you didn't intend to be dismissive of anyone's comments. You should definitely not feel badly - it was others who took our benign and constructive comments into a negative and toxic direction.

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Good morning to all,

Kimberly, you are absolutely free to mention personal situations within these forums. The purpose of these forums is to have a community that supports and shares. Support comes in all forms, and sometimes, it is nice to have an outside community of folks to share with.

The more thoughts and prayers that are said and thought, the better.

Thanks to everyone who always continues to support each other both as inventors and peers.

Vee R___
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I work at a large southern land grant university where innovation is fostered and encouraged with handsome inventor % of revenue.  They even help develop companies for you if that is the way you would like to pursue it.

I get my ideas sometimes just commuting and other times it is when I'm working on a particular project I get a "spark" on something related.

If it has something to do with my profession, and the work I do for the university then I must disclose it to them.  They then decide in 90 days whether to exert or waive their interest.  Both options are good for me since if they exert then they develop the patents and develop the product and if they waive then I have the right to do so too.

I get a lot of ideas that are technology related but nothing to do with my job and those are the ones that I would like to commercialize someway.

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