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Stage 4 sucks

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Hi Guys,

Been submitting here many times over many years...Made it to Stage 5 once. But for the others, Stage 4 is the killer for me. 

I get pissed, swear I will never come back and submit again, and then BOOM...another damn idea makes me drop another $25 bucks in the bottomless pit of hope. We'll see if this latest one (#17, but who's counting) makes it....

From Jim Carey in "Dumb & Dumber.."So you're sayin' there's a chance..."

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J P,

Stage four is a really tough nut to crack. And believe me, you are not alone. I've been around here goin' on ten years now and seventeen R4s ain't hardly nothin'. Like me, you'll just keep comin' back and then all of a sudden you'll have several R7s under belt whilst still working on that G8.

Hang in there.

Saletta .
Derrick James
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I think I've had 10 or 12 R4's or below in the last 8 months. Perseverance. No chance at much of anything in life without it. Can't say it's not discouraging, but don't let it make you quit. Maybe there's another angle of approach for your ideas? I've had a couple that I still believe in that were R4'd, that I just work on independently.

Saletta .
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Well, you guys been here a minute and I just could not pass stage4 either, on a second idea this last one I had hope for,but I don't know if I can update it and try again. Another company wants a pre- development fee of 795.97 for my idea to move forward and start working on getting companies to market it, but I don't have that money, right now. I like EN but it does suck not being able to pass a stage?Well good luck to all!

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William and Douglas are correct.  Your struggles are very typical.  Stage 4 is the stage in which most ideas are rejected.  Try to study the reasons for the rejections, and look for common trends and keep that top of mind when submitting future ideas.  I guessing that the number one reason is prior-art.

Nicolas Cooper
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Disappointment is part of the game. I try really hard not to get my hopes up. I have flunked out on level 8 before. Then again it's just fun to imagine creating something never done before. 

Joe SMith
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What is worse--a bunch of R4's, or a bunch of R8's ?

Robert Gonzalez
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@Rex Martin

R4s, at least with R8s you know that your concept has a definite value.

To my way of thinking an R8 just indicates that the manufacturer felt like he/she could get a bigger bang for their buck elsewhere. Successful commercialization of a concept isn't just about the concept. It's also about the perception of the manufacturer as to where to best put his/her dollar.

CK Leming
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Good answer williamj...good answer.

It's rare to find someone who has found success, without first swimming through a sea of failure.

CK Leming
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It's easy to imagine that the product is already manufactured. If I won lotto millions then getting it manufactured would be lot easier, probably not a good idea to gamble your money away on lotto tickets but it can be another awkward choice to get the invention done fast

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Lol... true, stage 4 is a sucker! its not a pleasant stage for anyone! But its a very necessary one and i love it. in fact, we ALL need it. myself i have one R4 so far, but managed to resubmit it into another search and now its again at stage 4 too Lol... i will wait and see. but my first R4 gave me a powerful insight and how to view "failure" especially that its not a failure after all. reflecting upon the great Thomas Edison, i now realize that with the light bulb, had he submitted it to Edison Nation he would have 1000 R4s... Wow! and he still tells us that each "failure" only gave him an insight to do better hence the 1000th time when he got it right and BOOM... the bulb lit... my one R4 so far means nothing, and if i get 100 R4s they will still mean nothing... i will only continue taking a leaf from the great EDISON until i make it...

so, stage 4 is really necessary and should be viewed with optimism as i do and most importantly as Thomas Edison did. 

peace!!

CK Leming
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